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Kathy Parks spends time with her horses, both of which are painted with “Don’t be a hater.” The message is meant for Parks’ neighbors, who claim the horses smell and have made numerous complaints about them.
Whoa, Nelly! Horse complaints divide Stonebrook
Published Sunday, May 3, 2009
HELENA — Those driving by Jim and Kathy Parks' house in the Stonebrook subdivision of Helena might see an unusual sight: two horses, one large and one small, grazing peacefully with the words "Don't be a hater" painted on their sides.
Kathy Parks intends those words, painted with colored hair gel, to be a message to her neighbors, with whom she has been involved in a two-year dispute over her horses.
"It's really the people that moved in next door. He just does not like horses, and he complains that he can smell them, which is really impossible," said Parks, who has lived in Stonebrook for four years. "If you don't like horses, then why would you move out here?"
Next-door neighbor Robert Milam Jr. has a different view. He contends that although the houses are two acres apart, his family can still smell the horses, especially when it's warm or when the wind is blowing.
"I don't care if they have 10 horses, but it stinks," Milam said. "If I would have moved in next to a dairy farm or something like that, I don't think I'd have any right to complain. I moved into a neighborhood that has covenants to protect you from something like this."
Milam, who has lived in Stonebrook since May 2006, said he first noticed the odor problem in late 2007. At that point, he spoke with the Parks about it, and they agreed to try to keep the property as clean as possible to minimize the smell. However, Milam claims he later told the Parks that the odor was still a problem, and at that point, communications between the neighbors broke down.
Milam has complained to the city about the odor numerous times.
"Part of the problem is the density of horses," Milam said. "(The Parks) don't have enough land to support that number of horses."
On their four acres, the Parks have two horses as well as a mini-horse, which weighs about 150 pounds. The Parks are in violation of a city ordinance that states houses must be on three acres to raise a horse, and then one and a half acres for every additional horse.
Councilmember Cris Nelson said the city is actively investigating the concerns.
"Most of the residents that had come (to the council meeting) and have horses said they would find a way to work around the ordinance," she said. "Some of the people out there have more horses than what is allotted for their acres, which is presenting a problem for the neighbors."
Parks said she plans to apply for a variance for all the horses to stay on the property, even though there have been complaints.
"(Horses) don't do well if they're alone. They're not emotionally content if they're alone," she said.
Paula Carroll said problems are created for horse owners in Stonebrook.
Carroll, who has lived in Stonebrook since 1992 and owns four horses, said her property has been vandalized because of her horses.
She claims on the night of April 26, someone opened all three of the gates designed to keep her horses in. One of the three gates, which was automatic, had its mechanics completely destroyed. The horses found their way out into the neighborhood, prompting neighbors to make a complaint to City Hall.
"I was so upset, thinking who would come on my property and let my horses out," Carroll said. "If someone let my horses out, I shouldn't get in trouble for them getting out."
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Posted by fcfbraveheart (anonymous) on May 4, 2009 at 7:03 a.m. (Suggest removal)
if the lady is violating city ordinances, then she should get in line with the ordinance, or go to jail. I had horses when I was younger, but we lived in the country, on 11 acres. Sorry, but the horses have to go.
Posted by msumlsa (anonymous) on May 4, 2009 at 8:52 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I'm with the homeowner with horses, if their neighbors don't like the smell move out. If they had investigated the neighborhood, they would have seen horses, what were they thinking?? There is always one in a neighborhood that wants to upset the apple cart.
Posted by JordanRivers (anonymous) on May 4, 2009 at 9:20 a.m. (Suggest removal)
This really isn't about horses, or odor. This is about a city government creating ordinances and not enforcing them. The City needs to either enforce the guidelines they created, or change the ordinance.
Posted by coontownnag (anonymous) on May 4, 2009 at 9:51 a.m. (Suggest removal)
This is just another case of outsiders moving in and then wanting things changed to thier way of thinking. Why did you move here and if you don't like it move back to where you came from. I bet you weren't happy there either. I wish the city would keep there nose out of this based on one complaint. The city has enought to do without settling disputes over petty things. If you take a good look at every ordinance and ever house, nearly everybody is violating some rule. The remark send them to jail, please get real and human. This must come from a person whom thinks if you make a ugly face then SEND THEM TO JAIL.
Posted by Blahblah (anonymous) on May 4, 2009 at 10:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Well if any of you new anything about this you would have a different take. There are sometimes as many as 4- 5 horses on this property. There are many structures that are on the property that are not supposed to be there. If you want to have horses that is great. I love animals and know that horses need more than 50-75 feet of ground to move around on. Why not move to where the horses are free to run. It is like having a cat live in a card board box its whole life. Any of you posters that have never seen the place in question need to see it for yourself, and then decide what the story is about. This is a residential subdivision, not "wild kingdom".
Posted by lov2divepc (anonymous) on May 4, 2009 at 10:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)
It is her land, and she pays her own taxes for that land and should be able to do what she wants with it. As long as she is taking care of it no one should be able to tell her what to do with it. She was there first; if you don’t like it leave.
Posted by buttercup (anonymous) on May 4, 2009 at 11:36 a.m. (Suggest removal)
If you read the city ordinances for E-1 zoned subdivisions in Helena, you would know that horses are allowed. Really, you should know what can live next to you before you purchase property, especially if you are the kind of person who is sensitive to animal smells.
Under the current ordinance, Ms. Parks is entitled to keep one horse, and one or more horses could be kept by every homeowner in Stonebrook, depending on property size. If you do not like the smell of horses, it is not advisable to move into subdivisions like Stonebrook.
Posted by Blahblah (anonymous) on May 4, 2009 at 11:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Horse ok, horses not ok . It is a barn yard. Could be envionmental hazard for the size of the property. If you have enough land it is great. Horses need to be able to run. City ordinances need to be enforced. If the property meets all ordinances, then no problem. If they do not enforce them. When neighbors who moved in next door to the Parks, there was "no barn yard". There two very nice houses for sell in the subdivision that have not sold, and I know for a fact that one reason is because of the yard in the article.
Posted by ponyman (anonymous) on May 4, 2009 at 12:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)
As I have said numerous times, if people driving by my property (especially my neighbors) would keep their eyes on the road for safety reasons, then they would not notice what I am doing privately at my home. Drivers need pay attention to the curve in the road and not my life. Some folks seem a little too obsessed with me, and I view this as stalking.
But for other Helena residents who want to view my beautiful property, please drive by; but pull over and stop so as not to cause an accident.
--Kathy Parks
Posted by coontownnag (anonymous) on May 4, 2009 at 12:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Soooo, you are saying that there was only ONE horse when you moved there and now they have more.hmmmm, still say you need to move to a subdivision where no horses are kept or allowed. Horses generally don't stink, just there poop, and that can easily be removed. I have dogs and if I don't remove the poop my yard smells. My neighbor has four large dogs and does not clean up after them and I can smell them if the wind is blowing my way. I know they love them and take care of them and I do not complain.
Posted by ponyman (anonymous) on May 4, 2009 at 12:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Hi folks. Jim Parks here. I'm looking to organize a new homeowners association. It's called the "Nosey- Uptight - Troublemaker Society (N.U.T.S.)
All it takes to be a member are these natural tendencies.
And there's no application fee. You'll pay your dues "elsewhere."
Being a part of N.U.T.S. is fun and exciting...and a little mysterious.
-- You get to sneak and peek around your neighbor's home;
-- You get to make false alligations to anyone who will listen;
--Even gossip with impunity.
And the best part is -- you're completely protected by N.U.T.S. ... (we're kinda cluless).
So join today; and ask a friend. You never know who is really N.U.T.S.
Posted by fcfbraveheart (anonymous) on May 4, 2009 at 12:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Folks, the issue here is not the stench (which I don't think is that strong, having come from a horse background), the issue is obeying the law. I wonder if all of you who are for the horse are also for all of the illegal aliens in our country. After all, its only a law that they shouldn't be here.
1.) If the subdivision has a convenant and it states that they can have livestock, as long as they are in accordance with city and county laws, then they can have livestock. But it sounds as if she is not in accordance with the law.
By law, she can have one horse, and she will be with the law.
2.) Cris, just enforce the law thats on the books, no investigation required.
3.) "they're not emotionall content if they're alone". Get Real. I had one for eight years, ALONE, and he was great.
but oh, I actually spent alot of time with him, and not just time to feed him.
4.) "and have horses said they would find a way to work around the variance" Translates to "Take your laws and stuff them, we are going to do what we want."
5.) Paula Carroll, no you should not be in any trouble for your horses getting out. But you should be in trouble with the law if you also are violating the ordinance law. And by computations, unless you have at least 7 1/2 acres, you are in violation.
Now, to respond to comments:
"coontownnag" Lets see, if someone breaks into your home, I guess we shouldn't send a policeman to investigate, unless you can get two or three people to call.
Yea, don't arrest people. Just let the people run amok. One of the problems our society faces today is lawlessness.
After all don't arrest that drunk, or that person selling drugs, or that illegal alien, or even anyone breaking the law.
"lov2divepc" Boy, do you open a large can of worms.
Lets see, growing marijuana, or running a still is illegal, but according to you, if you do it on your property that you pay taxes on, its ok?, right. Don't tell people what to do with thier land. I guess we need to abolish all of the building codes next?
Get real, if you want to live were you can do what you suggesting, you probably need to move to Greene county. If Bibb county have codes now.
"buttercup" I agree with you. If they have the land to support the horse/horses by the way the law reads, then Milan needs to move or get use to it.
Folks, it all boils down to this.
There is a ordinance on the books about horses and the amount of land required to keep a horse on.
If the Parks want to keep more than one horse, my suggestion would be for THEM to move. But they had better be careful. I recently left a subdivision in Wilsonville that would not allow horses, and I had seven acres.
Posted by ponyman (anonymous) on May 4, 2009 at 1:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)
In reponse to Mr. Milam's comment about moving next to a dairy farm... the last time I checked, you don't milk horses.
Posted by buttercup (anonymous) on May 4, 2009 at 1:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Paula Carroll here. We have 8.44 acres, two lots, my mother on one and my family on the other. The mayor and one other council member actually listened to what we were saying, pulled the minutes, and have stated that we are in compliance with the ordinance as it existed when we moved in. Therefore, we are not required to get rid of any of our horses, for which I am thankful.
In the last 3 months, our fences have been vandalized on 3 separate occasions. We did not contact the police, because we had no proof as to the identity of the vandals, although we did talk to the officer who was called out by someone on April 26 and show him the damage that had been done. On his recommendation, we are installing security cameras, and padlocks (the vandals completely removed the automatic lock on the automatic gate.)
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As I spent a good deal of my legal practice dealing with property law, I can certainly understand the desire of cities to establish zoning ordinances, but I can also tell you that courts all over the country are striking down ordinances that arbitrarily limit the number of animals maintained without regard to the reasonableness of said ordinance.
Additionally, there are people that just cannot be made happy. There is no point in trying to appease those who simply cannot be content. I am almost certain that the Parks will still be the subject of complaints even if they have a single horse, because I know for a fact that Kathy removes the manure at least once and often twice or more each day.
I am not trying to stir the pot, and really do not wish to be involved in any sort of conflict, but I do intend to keep my horses and to try to catch anyone who trespasses with the intent to interfere with them; if we catch you on video, we will certainly intend to have you prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
All this being said, Peace, people. Set a spell, and enjoy this wonderful city which we call home.
Posted by Blahblah (anonymous) on May 4, 2009 at 2:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)
buttercup, are you alleging that someone in neighborhood broke into property? I think that is a huge stretch. What benifit would come of that? I think you are pulling our leg. If someone damages your property I feel you, being a lawyer would contact the police. As far as the others, is this not a free country and a person can "look" wherever they want.
Posted by buttercup (anonymous) on May 4, 2009 at 2:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)
This is indeed a free country, to some extent, and you may think what you like. However, since my practice was in the civil and not the criminal courts, why would I be more likely to contact the police than any other citizen with an unsubstantiated property damage claim? We did not contact the police when someone hit our gate with their vehicle and left a piece of their bumper behind either. When we did talk with the police about the vandalism, we were told that, absent an eyewitness, property damage claims are almost impossible to prove, in spite of the fact that our mangled gate lay in front of the officer.
I certainly have no interest in "pulling the legs" of anyone, and I have not alleged that the vandalism was at the hands of someone who lives in Stonebrook. Perhaps you know something I do not? As to the "benefit" that might be gleaned from such an action, I can only speculate, but I imagine that many could surmise what pleasure might be gleaned by individuals who would engage in such acts.
Also, you may not always "look" where you desire. Where one has a reasonable expectation of privacy, as defined under the law, one is protected from prying eyes; laws against peeping toms exist for this reason. Also, trespass laws exist to prohibit individuals from invading another's property to get a "look." However, I am certain that you did not mean that one has unfettered access to view whatever one might wish in violation of anothers' right to privacy, so I rest.
Again, Peace. Be well.
Posted by havi22 (anonymous) on May 4, 2009 at 3:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)
This issue is not about the horses- this is about people who live to start problems! I know for a fact that this 'association' is nothing more than a clique of a few who are mean spirited and hateful. This is not the first time they have tried to shun the Parks. There was the 'fence' controversy that went on and on and on, the arch debate, the barn complaint- there is ALWAYS something that keeps this 'association' in a frenzy! I propose that this group of neighbors use their considerable time and energy for a worthy cause- feed the hungry, shoe the shoeless. GET A HOBBY!!! Oh wait- GET ANOTHER HOBBY besides torturing the people you don't deem worthy enough for your 'in crowd!'
Posted by Blahblah (anonymous) on May 4, 2009 at 4:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I guess that any ordinance the city has is "out the window" in this neighborhood. I thought this place was "upscale"? I guess if you know the right people in Helena you can do what you want, when you want. It looks to me that a few want to have it their was regardless of what the law says. What next? Parking on the streets? Oops do not do that you will get a ticket. Cut through a parking lot, nope that will not work either. Why don't we all tell the city to kiss our butt, we pay taxes, we will do as we please.
Posted by whimsical (anonymous) on May 4, 2009 at 4:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I have pigs in my yard, but then again, I live in Pelham. It's full of swine anyway.
Posted by NOTWHATIBOUGHTINTO (anonymous) on May 4, 2009 at 6:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I am the other neighbors wife, Mrs. Milam. THERE WERE NO HORSES ON THIS PROPERTY WHEN WE PURCHASED THREE YEARS AGO.I truly believe the Parks love their horses. My children love to look at them when we leave. I know they love their property by all the time they put into it. BUT my children should be able to enjoy their time outside playing and swimming without the odor. I really believe they don't smell it. If you work in a daycare you don't smell the dirty diapers either. I have tried to stay out of this. I have prayed feverently about it. I love my neighborhood and I think EVERYONE should be able to enjoy their property.....not just the Parks.
Posted by peace (anonymous) on May 4, 2009 at 7 p.m. (Suggest removal)
What is sad is that the neighbors are so full of bitterness... to the point that it has HINDERED house sales. I KNOW of families who considered purchasing but decided not to do so because of the bad reputation of the neighbors.
The issue is not city council or the horses. It is mean spirited neighbors. The neighbors have created fights for YEARS! They have harrassed and harrassed. They even complained about the Parks putting up a beautiful white fence...made them change it to a split wood fence. The white fence was not "good" enough. The elitism and arrogance is hysterical. Yes, it is a nice neighborhood but what gives one the right to become an elitist.
It is a shame that people can not just live their lives and busy themselves with DOING GOOD DEEDS instead of causing trouble.
I have personally been inside the Park's home and barn. Their barn is cleaner than most people's houses.
Dear Neighbors...leave a legacy of peace. Busy your hands with righteous things. Make the world a better place. Quit throwing rocks.
Posted by dolly (anonymous) on May 4, 2009 at 7:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Mrs.Milam, I wonder. Did Paula have horses in this same neighborhood 3 years ago? Are the Parks not allowed the same rights according to the neighborhood ordinance?
I'm sorry if the smell is an issue, but it seems a little research before purchasing could have eliminated the problem. You can't change the rules after the fact. If the odor is a such a big problem, especially if children are involved, why have you battled with the Parks for so long? Three years! Just move and let it go. Life's too short.
Posted by peace_freak (anonymous) on May 4, 2009 at 7:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Okay, scuse my French, but what the H*** Kathy and Jim, and Paula are great people. Those neighbors are lieing, it's impossible because the horses are more then 2 acres away, the horses poop is always picked up, and the neighbors just don't like them. People who don't live there love Kathy's yard, and think it's the best one.
It all started years ago when they hated the fence, now the horses, what next? These neighbors are sorry and stupid. They scream to much, they're just not good people, they give me the stink eye and I don't even live there.
People need to get over themselves, and get one thing straight-THE NEIGHBORS ARE LIEING!
Jail? For a horse smelling bad? You guys are stupid, and quite frankly it says that they can have horses living around them.
If you got something to say, say it to my face I'm not scared of you, email me evie.like.woah@gmail.com, do it I dare you. Since your too scared to say it to our face, email me. Instead of going online and complaining.
Peace, love and rock n roll.
Posted by peace_freak (anonymous) on May 4, 2009 at 8:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Another from me-
Oh and by the way, and another thing, Mr. Milliam stated in the article, he didn't care if she had 10 horses or one, they still smelled. So it's clear, he hates horses and is out to get us. That's like saying, hey I hate cold weather, I gotta good hunny, lets move to the North Pole. Look if you read the rules, it states that they can have horses! Even a baby knows, everybody poops! If we lived in a perfect world, no one's poop would stink, but we don't so get over your self and get on with it. Losers, have nothing better to do.
Posted by dolly (anonymous) on May 4, 2009 at 9:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Dear Parks, I think you should replace your horses with a couple of jackasses. They might be a perfect fit in your neighborhood.
Posted by fcfbraveheart (anonymous) on May 4, 2009 at 9:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)
This is going to be my last post on this hate board.
If the Parks have more horses than allowed by the city ordinance, they should have to board the horses somewhere else. Shucks, they might even be able to board them on the other side of the Milan's. Wouldn't that be cute.
I stated that if the Parks aren't going to obey the law, Then there is always jail. This of course would be the last resort, after fines. Of course all this will be tied up in courts forever, and will cost out the yah yah. So boarding might be a viable response.
As I have responded to one of the posters, I do not live in the city of Helena, much less the subdivision. I read this story and saw a flagrant violation of the law, and stated my feelings on the matter. But I see that this is really a neighborhood squabble, so you all just have at it. Personally, I am really glad I DON"T LIVE NEAR THIS SUBDIVISION.
By the way, does anyone know if the city ordinance allows pigs in Helena. Shucks, you could have your own bacon then.
Folks, God Bless all of you, and learn to live with each other.
Posted by dannyabtl (anonymous) on May 5, 2009 at 10:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Quick... Someone call Judge Wapner!
Posted by prospectivebuyer (anonymous) on May 5, 2009 at 11:15 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Are you breaking the law or ordinance by having these horses on your land? There is an easy solution to this dilemma. Have your land surveyed. If you are in violation of the law, be thankful that you have not been asked to have the horses removed. Your love for animals does not supercede the law. By drawing more attention to this disagreement and making yourself look like the victims, you only alienate yourself more from the other residences.
I'm thankful we did not buy a house in this neighborhood knowing that our neighbors would take it upon themselves to turn it into Old Mac Donalds Farm. No one resident have the right to infringe unto anyones rights to live in a clean, discrete and odor free neighborhood.
If you loved your horses so much, place them in an environment so they can roam. Stop screaming about your rights to own horses if you're breaking the law in the first place by having them in a neighborhood.
Posted by Blahblah (anonymous) on May 5, 2009 at 4:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Can you have any animal you want in this "hood"? Goats, chickens, sheep, cows, emews?
Posted by dee (anonymous) on May 6, 2009 at 1:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Some of the people who live in this area actually purchased land BEFORE this ordinace specified animal to acres ratio.(ME,for one!) Any any ex post facto law is is prohibited by the US Constitution,and no matter how full of themselves the city council is, the US Constitution is above these silly petty rulings.
What is so confusing is ,why do people so anxious to get out of the city move to a more rural area and then immediately complain and attempt to change what was there before they moved? Larry Langford has plenty of property for sale and horses will no longer be the problem you have.
Posted by Blahblah (anonymous) on May 6, 2009 at 2:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)
donkeys, ducks, hippos, elephants, gators, geese, snakes, dogs, cats, rats, bats, mice, moose, deer, turkey... where will it end???????????????????????????????
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Posted by Tommy (anonymous) on May 7, 2009 at 3:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)
You can take folks out of the city but you can't take the city out of the folks. I love it. You want some cheese with that whine?
Posted by MYOB (anonymous) on May 7, 2009 at 5:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I'm amazed at these "Christian" neighbors and their comments. I feel for the Parks. From the minute they moved in, these Christian neighbors have harassed them. They made them take down a beautiful fence which, when I've driven into this subdivision gave it such class and beauty. The current fence which was forced upon them does not do the subdivision justice. The Parks have bent over backwards to give in to these folks in an effort to be neighborly and yet they have been met with a bunch of hypocrites and snobs. Do unto others as you would have done unto yourselves is the Lord's commandments.
Who would want to move into a neighborhood with a bunch of busybodies and people who CANNOT MIND THEIR OWN BUSINESS??? Money doesn't buy you class.
As far as the covenants in this neighborhood... there are so many that have been broken... from Vertical Siding to front facing garage doors to many other infractions that you should all be busy enough for years to fight with each other.
I'm so glad I never choose to move to this neighborhood full of cowards and non Christian individuals. I'm surprised anyone would want to live in a neighborhood full of racial hatred and snobbery! I'm disgusted that anyone would mention the word "prayer" in the same breath as some of the actions mentioned here.
If your parents didn't teach you anything, perhaps the one thing they should have taught you was: MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS! Perhaps then you'd be a much happier individual than to spend your life in bitterness and anger. Find a better hobby than spying on your neighbors and sending emails of hate to each other in an effort to target one individual.
Maybe someday some of you will grow up and leave people like the Parks and the Carroll's alone - they did nothing to you and yet you live such miserable lives that you have to target individuals who are happy and content?
I'll pray for you because that's all I can hope that you learn a little forgiveness and happiness. And for those of you so busy trying to figure out "who I am..." I'm not your neighbor (Thank GOD!). I would refuse to live in such a miserable neighborhood which has to make the news because of such small minded individuals! I'm so glad I didn't purchase. There are some lovely neighbors in this subdivision that I've met, I feel for you for having to live with a few individuals who can't be happy. Be careful, you might be their next target. Leopards never change their spots, they will soon find new targets to go after!
As for the Parks, keep being the generous and kind people you are. Do not let the bitterness of a few individuals affect you. You are wonderful people and your property and well groomed grounds speak highly of your dedication to not only your animals, but your efforts to be good neighbors. Keep being the kind Christian people that I have gotten to know in passing.
Posted by Tommy (anonymous) on May 7, 2009 at 9:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Well what goes around comes around. Example. I live in Westover and a high class man moved behind me on a large parcel of land. I have 1 horse on my small 4 acres and he come sliding up into my yard one day and demanded that I build a fence high enough that my horse could not put his head over the top of the fence (now if he had flowers or pretty landscape I would understand but there is nothing on his side but briars and underbrush). I built the fence and he would never wave, speak or anything. Just so happen one Saturday he built a fire to burn some of his underbrush and did not put it out, it continues to smolder till wednesday when the wind blew and started the fire back up and it burned to within 3' of my house when a neighbor saw it and called 911. The unfriendly neighbor had to come and face the music from me and from the fire department. AMAZINGLY he now seems forced to speak and be friendly.
MYOB..... It's so amazing too that every Christmas he displays his Nativity and a poster for his MEGA Church on AL119. I agree with you as to how it's funny how some people can attend church on Sunday and look down on others during the week.
My dad and I also have 100 acres of farm land with 60 cattle and 4 horses and when the neighbors want to go fishing or camping or want a place to grow a garden we always find room for them then you have these other types who don't even want another person's horse to lean his head over the fence and those who want to tell everyone else how to live
Posted by Blahblah (anonymous) on May 8, 2009 at 8:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)
MYOB, Do you obey by the law? The city has certian ordinances that state what you can have in the city of Helena. If ANYONE does not obey them they should correct it or the city will. Do you have rules to go by in your neighborhood? I would think that if you did you would abide by them also, not put up whatever you want(fence, barn). This neighborhood has the nicest people I have ever meet. I would never move from here, but I also abide by the rules this neighborhood has. So MYOB and stay out of this unless you live here. I do not hate any animal. I love all of Gods creatures, but if it is they are not meeting the city code they must go! If you want a "farm" move somewhere else. As far as targets go, if you go by the rules there will be no target on you. GET IT!!!
Posted by MYOB (anonymous) on May 8, 2009 at 12:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)
So you exceeding the speed limit driving down Highway 52 in your Hummer means you weren't breaking the law? Perhaps the Helena Police Force should be made aware so that they may keep an eye out for you... since you.are so concerned about your neighbors being in compliance with the law. Preaching about how everyone else should mind the law is laughable when you yourself have reckless driving habits.
Perhaps spending time tiding up your landscape would be better time spent. It certainly would do the subdivision justice to see your own land looking a little less like some hillbilly lived there and more in line with the other well groomed homes within this subdivision!
Perhaps you should read your covenants. Before you start choosing one target, I'd suggest you be careful as there are others in your neighborhood who are NOT in compliance with your covenants. You cannot enforce the covenants on one individual and yet no one else. If you are going to cast blame on one, better to cast blame on all of them. Your subdivision is allowed to have horses. There is NOTHING you can do about that and having a horse is ALLOWED by the city of Helena. Each of your Neighbors could purchase a Clydesdale and put it on their property and there is nothing you can do about it, it's within their rights to have a horse. Get over yourself.
The Parks have bent over backwards in an effort to be a good neighbor, but people like yourself can never be happy. You are so busy sticking your fingers in everyone else's eye, that you can't see the stone in your own! Be careful of throwing around the words you've used here when you yourself are no saint. I do agree there certainly are some very nice neighbors in this neighborhood.
To Tommy, The Nativity scene went sooo nicely with the rebel flag that was flown, don't you think? Never understood that myself... Mouthing the words every Sunday isn't the same as practicing them everyday.
This is a free country, I have the right to post on this subject. Don't like it? Too bad! Under the Freedom of Speech act, I am allowed to have my say.
And by the way.... learn to spell... it's benefit not benifit! I don't know what the heck an Emew is suppose to be... Blahblah is right, it's such an annoying little sound, reminds me of those pesky Nats.
Posted by Blahblah (anonymous) on May 8, 2009 at 1:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I do not have a Hummer. I do not care if you have a hundred horses as long as they are within the law. You have no clue about the city ordinances,
Section 7.
7.2 A minimum lot area of three (3) acres shall be required in order to house or raise a horse in this district. An additional one and one-half acres are required for each additional horse with a maximum of (5) horses per parcel of land.
Posted by MYOB (anonymous) on May 8, 2009 at 1:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)
You are the one with no clue. The Parks are within the limit of this law to own a horse. Personally, I hope they get rid of the horse and replace it with a Jackass. I hope each of your neighbors get a horse (since this subdivision has a minimum acreage of 3 acres per lot).
You've spouted nothing but ignorance of the laws.
Posted by peace_freak (anonymous) on May 8, 2009 at 8:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)
FOR THE HUNDRETH TIME WE AREN'T BREAKING A LAW.
Posted by ImajeIG (anonymous) on May 9, 2009 at 11:01 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Whoa,
First off: PUT DOWN THE CRACK PIPE and then remove your cranium from your posterior. Good thing you don't live in my neighborhood. Here we can have three horses on ONE acre. Because I didn't get my horse until two years after I moved in, my neighbors have no right to complain and you don't either. It is the responsibility of the buyers to know the zoning permits before they move in. You are in no position to complain. Personally, I think you are more suited to condo living.
Posted by ImajeIG (anonymous) on May 9, 2009 at 11:07 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I had a jerk complain about my American flag in my front yard, so I replaced it with a Gay Pride flag.
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