Posted by enlightened (anonymous) on November 19, 2009 at 3:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

WOW! What a great neighbor huh?

Posted by nowhiterocks (anonymous) on November 19, 2009 at 7:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Read carefully -- it is filled with "I believe" and "We believe" and "We don't think" and "We don't believe".

Also, if this was so many years ago and EBSCO complied with ADEM at that time -- and it (EBSCO) is no longer dumping -- what was the point of calling a press conference? Did Steve Brantley disclose if EBSCO was in compliance with the order from ADEM to discoutinue the dumpling. I BELIEVE he did not! However, I BELIEVE they did.

Rob Fowler has done water testing and I BELIEVE it came out clear!

Robert Wood, geologist, says these toxins last a long time in nature. I BELIEVE we need to know how long is a long time!

I BELIEVE Vincent EBSCO has been a good neighbor -- they did what was required by ADEM. I DON'T BELIEVE the town's people are oppposed to Vulcan Information Packaging having their facility here. I DON'T think I have seen any yard signs opposing VIP/EBSCO.

I BELIEVE White Rock is trying to dig up info -- regardless of it's truthfulness -- perhaps to simply draw attention to the issues.

Posted by thor (anonymous) on November 19, 2009 at 7:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

This is the most pitiful press conference I have heard in my lifetime. 15 years ago most industries were doing the same thing as Ebsco, most likely including White Rock Quarry. In the late 80's the public was to be notified of chemical holdings on industrial properties. This changed the way toxics would be accounted for. Ebsco met the challenge. WR is searching for well water problems. Well water problems will only happen if WR builds in Vincent.

Posted by vincent4ever (anonymous) on November 19, 2009 at 9:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Thor,

Have you ever heard of a company by the name Alabama Plating. How many years ago was that? Maybe about 15 years ago. It took them going bankrupt before anyone noticed they had been poisoning your neighbors. It also took the EPA to come in and clean it up. Why do you say it is ok to kill people in one case and how horrible it is to kill people in the other. This is why I have a problem with You, Judy Naugle, Noble Naugle, Jo Mudd, and Charles Cantrell.

You and these people only care about how much money you have. You do not care about the people that have to work multiple jobs to provide for our families. Wake up! Judy Naugle, Noble Naugle, Jo Mudd and Charles Cantrell does not care about anybody but themselves. How much money is EBSCO paying them? Check it out!

Posted by vincent4ever (anonymous) on November 19, 2009 at 11:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Thor,

One thing I forgot to ask. Do you remember when the best product ever invented, which had the best insulating properties anyone could ask for? It was used in roofing, flooring, building insulation, brake shoes, clutch plates, industrial boilers, house siding, and almost anything we could think of requiring these properties. That was some 40 years ago. Do you remember the name of this product? Asbestos. How many people do you think are still dying every day due to the exposure to asbestos?

Just because it was done years ago by everyone. That does not make it right.

Posted by noquarry462 (anonymous) on November 23, 2009 at 6:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

vincent4ever
Do u ever get any actual facts? So asbestos was INVENTED 40 years ago? I hope u didn't go to any Vincent Schools.
Lack of knowledge doesn't make it "right", but sometimes it makes it legal.
I think WR may be correct about one thing, u can sell some of these Vincent hicks anything.

Posted by vincent4ever (anonymous) on November 27, 2009 at 2:52 a.m. (Suggest removal)

noquarry462,

You are correct. I spoke without verifying the facts. What can you expect from an underfunded school system like Vincent. However, my point still holds true. Asbestos was the best thing since sliced bread until we found out it was killing people.

Posted by noquarry462 (anonymous) on November 27, 2009 at 9:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

v4e
The underfunding of our schools is a product of Shelby County School Board. This is the same school board that is so interested in our children that they commissioned a study of quarry effects on children as soon as the quarry was mentioned. Oh, I'm sorry, it's been almost a year and we've heard nothing from the school board, so they must not care about OUR children.
You are correct about one thing, uncontrolled use of asbestos is dangerous and does kill people (my father for instance.) However, unlike asbestos, quarries may not always kill, but they do destroy everything around them. Are u saying WR has something to do with asbestos?.
One more thing, WR has signs that say "Yes for schools" What does this mean? The only thing WR will do postive for our schools is try to buy them with the miserly $30 k. I think it has something with selling to "the hicks." (Any arguments to this statement, PLEASE include sometype fact.)

Posted by AutumnLeaves (anonymous) on November 29, 2009 at 3:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)

good question

Posted by vincentresident11 (anonymous) on November 30, 2009 at 6:34 a.m. (Suggest removal)

You people are crazy!

Posted by noquarry462 (anonymous) on November 30, 2009 at 6:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

vreleven
facts please. I'm not sure which group of crazy people u r talking about.

Posted by thor (anonymous) on December 5, 2009 at 6:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Alabama Crimson Tide beats the Florida Gators in the SEC Championship game. How about Vincent Alabama beats Florida based White Rock Quarry at their game.

Posted by noquarry462 (anonymous) on December 6, 2009 at 4:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Once again Thor kicks WR PR - - -, while they strike out while trying to kick a second home run by buying off the city zoning board. I hope the next zoning board member that tries to hold a pro-quarry get together just goes ahead and announces the buy out.

Posted by Shelbycitizen (anonymous) on December 7, 2009 at 5:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Once again noquarry462 you are just running your mouth with no facts. Absolutely amazing. What you are claiming is against the law. IF you have ANY evidence, take it to the State Ethics Commission. I suspect you will never do that because you don't have any. If you do have evidence, they will pursure this for you and I will change sides and oppose the quarry...because that is wrong...I would also be careful making such comments without proof, folks can sue for libel and slander if it is not true about White Rock.

Posted by thor (anonymous) on December 7, 2009 at 9:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Shelbycitizen. You are amazing. The facts will come out when the Mayor and the City Council vote on the quarry. The States Ethics Commision will check out whatever the vote outcome is. The EPA needs to get invovled with the property WRQ owns in Vincent.

Posted by Shelbycitizen (anonymous) on December 8, 2009 at 8:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Thor,
That means that you do not have any proof of what you all are claiming. In fact, what you are claiming is simply lies. If you can show that white rock "bought off" the city council you should go after white rock and the public officials regardless of how the City Council votes. You or the Ethics Commission don't have to wait until the vote...buying off public officials is against the law. In fact, you claim the facts "will come out" later, meaning you have absolutely no evidence NOW that this has happened...because it has not. Your blog entries have now become even more of a joke because this is simply a platform for you to make bald accusations and you dont have to man up with proof of your lies.

Posted by noquarry462 (anonymous) on December 8, 2009 at 7:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Sc
There is proof. There are investagations on going, and they are past The Ethics Commission. There are demands being made for some to resign their elected positions because they have broken the law. There are lawsuits being prepared. Unfortunately, the ones that have conspired with WR now seem determined to destroy not only the Vincent community, but also some officals that really would like the best for the community.
As far as libel suits, my name is all over the complaints that were filed with documented proof. A libel suit would be received with jubilation. (You just follow the money.)
Why is it that you pro-quarry supporters keep talking about proof and facts, when the proof and facts supporting no quarry have been provided? If you would just take time to explore them, the only reason you would continue to spout this dribble is that you are already owned by WR.

Posted by Shelbycitizen (anonymous) on December 9, 2009 at 10:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Noquarry, I am not trying to be difficult, but once again you simply say "There is proof." What proof? So, the Ethics Commission has already determined that there have been violations of the law? I doubt that only because you guys would have gone to the paper with information like that. I am amazed that you think that all supporters of the quarry are "bought off" or as you call me "owned" by WR. I understand you opposition to the project. However, simply because people support the quarry the quarry does not mean that they are unethical or are violating the law.

Posted by noquarry462 (anonymous) on December 9, 2009 at 6:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Sc
Can you read? If so, please read my response. Read the words, they mean something. The English language allows one to express facts by tying words together in, what is called a sentence. Sentences are then tied together to express a fuller explanation of what the writer is saying.
Proof, "complaints that were filed with documented proof." Check it out , it's public record. There have been laws broken.
Owned, "proof and facts supporting no quarry have been provided? If you would just take time to explore them, the only reason you would continue to spout this dribble is that you are already owned by WR." If you buy into the WR lies of riches for anyone other than WR, you are owned, i.e., see "proof and facts."
I meant what I said, and gave full explanation for why I said it.

Posted by SCW (anonymous) on December 9, 2009 at 8:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

WHAT is your proof? Shelbycitizen wants to know WHAT the proof is. Not THAT there is proof. Your insistence on making everybody work for the information makes it look like you don’t know what you are talking about. Make it very plain. Tell us what complaint was filed, exactly where it was filed and the details of the complaint. Web links would be nice. Quotes would be even better.

I believe you are making huge leaps with your so called “facts.” Your “facts” involve assumptions that do not necessarily add up. You want to believe that people couldn’t possibly support the quarry unless they were paid off. Hello, there is freedom of thought here in the good ‘ole US of A. That is the reason people vote for Republicans or Democrats or go to a Methodist or Baptist church. There are some people that actually support the quarry. There are lots of possibilities here. You want to assume that everybody is doing illegal things. While I respect your opinion on a quarry’s benefit to the community, I do not respect your methods. You would like to attack anyone involved that does not have an anti-quarry stance; even those that have a neutral stance. Unfortunately for you, you are alienating those that may be willing to come over to your side. Attacking PEOPLE is not fighting the correct battle. If someone did something illegal it should be fought (and it would be nice if you gave DETAILS, not just saying “complaints that were filed with documented proof” or “proof and facts supporting no quarry have been provided?” That does not GIVE us proof, just tell us that there IS proof). However, this fight is a separate one from whether or not the quarry should be in Vincent. The fight against the quarry should be based on statistics, environmental studies, health studies, finances and otherwise logical argument. TWO separate battles. If you continue this fight against people you believe have been bought and other subjective arguments (until PROOF has been provided, it is speculation and subjective) you are missing the bigger battle. There are people in the community that genuinely believe the quarry will be good for Vincent (and believe me, there are MANY for it). These people will be trying to get the quarry pushed through. It will all happen while you are busy gossiping.

Posted by thor (anonymous) on December 9, 2009 at 8:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Shelbycitizen doesn't read only scans. When anyone claims the facts will come out Shelbycitizen goes bananas. Your blogs have become a joke. Shelbycitizen do you have any proof to support WRQ, Vincent Zoning Board, Mayor and council?

Posted by thor (anonymous) on December 9, 2009 at 9:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

SCW. Why are you for the quarry? Do you have any facts to support the quarry. Sinkholes, What possibly can WRQ do for Vincent. The question should be. What can Vincent do for WRQ? Answer, Millions of dollars. Where will these dollars go.?

Posted by Shelbycitizen (anonymous) on December 10, 2009 at 9:02 a.m. (Suggest removal)

This is funny. SCW you are right. They keep saying there is "proof." Believe me, I read the postings and I have yet to see any proof or evidence of any wrongdoing--merely bald accusations. Their response is you didn't read when I said there is proof. Come on guys. Thor, I have read all of the information provided by both sides. I have read the studies regarding noise, dust, sinkholes, wetlands, endangered species, cultural resources, etc. What will WRQ do? According to the numbers, 120 new jobs for local people, $3.4 million in tax revenue in the first two years (apparently from a tax on manufacturing equipment alone)--don't forget that Vincent's current budget is around $500,000 annually, a steady tax base. So in the first three years, WRQ will contribute 7-8 times Vincent's annual budget. This doesn't count the things WRQ has volunteered to do or the normal property tax or employment taxes and spending. Go by their office in Vincent and look at the numbers. It is folks like the Naugles that are opposing the quarry after having made significant money from the sale of the property...those are public documents--over $30,000 on two sales...go look. Those are FACTS. But, once they made their money on the sale, they don't want the people who own the property to make money or Vincent to have money to pave roads, improve downtown, help with fire/police response--better Vincent. They, along with Cantrell and Mudd actually want Vincent to go away--become a part of Harpersville so that the can stay as the "big wigs" of somewhere--the history of our town means nothing to you guys.

Thor, you are just flat wrong on the Vincent paying WRQ millions. It is my understanding that WRQ hasn't ask for any tax abatements (unlike EBSCO who had its taxes abated for the last 40 years)or free land. Once again you are just babbling without any facts. Tell me where you get the facts from you statement that Vincent will pay millions. We don't have millions of dollars.

Posted by thor (anonymous) on December 10, 2009 at 11:12 a.m. (Suggest removal)

You read what you want to in every blog. Why do you think WR wants the limestone? To make millions of dollars period. All the studies about the enviroment you say you have read must not matter to you, just take WR money and let the enviroment take care of itself. To me the destruction of Vincent is not worth it. As for as facts you are the one who keeps stating proof, evidence, wrong doing. Are you afraid their is some facts out there?

Posted by thor (anonymous) on December 10, 2009 at 9:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

At 75 yrs old I have respect for men who have the guts to speak their mind. The Mayor of Vincent should have the guts to speak his mind. If you are for the quarry say so, if you are agains't the quarry say so. Down town Vincent has one street. They are divided by Quarry and NO Quarry. Who is in control of Vincent? Why should the citizens of Vincent have respect for the elected officials? The officials who are respected have roots in Vincent . I respect Tom Bell.

Posted by noquarry462 (anonymous) on December 10, 2009 at 9:48 p.m. (Suggest removal)

When you say something that is not in WR talking points, I will be more than happy to respond with more detail. So far nearly all of your points have been refuted. It is understandable that some want to twist no quarry opinion, but at least you could READ IN FULL CONTEXT what we say. I have never attached anyone. Again, take the time to READ what I said, and then quit condemning people because they are taking a stand to protect what they have. I would guess that you live across town from the proposed quarry and think that you are protected from the destruction this thing will cause. You certainly don't care about us on river loop.

Posted by Shelbycitizen (anonymous) on December 11, 2009 at 11:54 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Noquarry...you say that you "have never attached anyone." I assume that you mean "attacked." Like you suggested,I took the time to read what you said. Let's see if you have never attached, I mean attacked, anyone. Here are some of the quotes that you have made on this blog:

1. "buying off the city zoning board" (that is an attack on the board's ethics;)

2. "the mayor of Vincent has or is or plans to use his office for personal gain" (that is an attack on the mayor's ethics);

3. "when it comes to the Zoning Board, I . . . think several have been bought" (another attack on the board's ethics");

4. "Before you nubs try to..." (calling people "nubs" sure sounds like an attack on those people);

5. "The biggest problem when officals sell themselves" (yet another attack on people's ethics);

6. "They ignore the people because they have sold themselves to the quarry. They are determined to destroy Vincent for the sake of padding their own pockets" (yet another);

7. "you are to stupid to voice an opinion." (ouch a clear attack on someone);

8. "Any idiot could easily confirm" (nub? stupid? idiot? ...again, sounds like attacks to me);

9. I saved your best attack for last: "as a business owner that interviews many (of Shelby County's) young people seeking their first full time job, I can tell you it is embarrassing to see how 'unlearned' they are. Not only do we have to train them to do a job, we have to teach them basic math, but we have to teach them basic English so we can converse well enough to teach them the basic math. Don't even ask about history, if it doesn't have something to do with music, sex, or dope, they don't even care." (Students in Shelby County are igonorant and only interested in sex, dope, and don't care? That sure sounds like an attack on all of the students in Shelby County. I have more respect for them than that and know that they are much better than that).

So noquarry462, did I misquote you on any of these?

Posted by noquarry462 (anonymous) on December 11, 2009 at 6:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Sc
You either misquoted or took every statement out of context. You even changed or added to the quotes that you posted, which is ok if you exclude them from the quote.
I will either "attack" your ability to read and comprehend English, or comend you for your ability to twist words.
Posting out for the holiday.
Merry Christmas.

Posted by thor (anonymous) on December 11, 2009 at 9:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Shelbycitizen, Are you a citizen of Vincent? Do you live within the city of Vincent. If not . Quit whining. You are a joke to keep on saying WR ads about the quarry. That is old news. Face it. You are a complainer, just to complain.
You complain about the majority of people who are against the quarry. You and your group are against anyone who speaks out in favor of a no quarry located in Vincent.

Posted by vincent4ever (anonymous) on December 13, 2009 at 6 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Shelbycitizen,

Thor and noquarry462 only want the quarry to be in the Town of Harpersville through annexation.

Think about it, the quarry is limited to the area that has the type of rock they want. It is in Vincent and not in Harpersville. So they want to destroy Vincent and make it part of Harpersville so they can increase the number of people that would benefit from a quarry, increasing the likelyhood of a quarry moving in.

Posted by ed_b_1 (anonymous) on December 13, 2009 at 10:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

vincent4ever
I'm not sure I understand any of your post. In fact, I don't think anything you said makes any sense. Will you please expound on you statements? Is there any collation to the previous post since you refered to them?

Posted by vincent4ever (anonymous) on December 14, 2009 at 12:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)

ed_b_1,
Let me simplify it. You are being played. These people have us believing that they are fighting a quarry. In fact, they want a quarry, as long as it is in Harpersville.

As they would say, let's look at the facts.

1) Who is most likely to fight a quarry from moving into our community? I say it is people that have to look out their back door and see it or feel it's effects. When you increase the number of people that is even farther away, you increase the ratio of people for the quarry than against it.

2) Harpersville is in need of money to pay off the debt they have. What better way is there than to have tax revenue from a quarry? They see a gold mine here. You are a business owner. Don't you see the benefit here?

3) If a company purchased 1000 acres of land in Harpersville to start a quarry, do you think there would be this resistance? I say they would be welcoming it as they have every other business that has located Harpersville.

What I am saying is there is a small group of people that is looking for money. These people are located in Harpersville. Many people are being played here in Vincent. I hope they wake up before it is too late.

Posted by Shelbycitizen (anonymous) on December 14, 2009 at 8:07 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Actually Noquarry, these are your quotes. Anyone can simply click on your name and see that these are you exact words. Thor, I am not complaining. I am now excited about what can happen in Vincent for the first time in a long time.

Posted by ed_b_1 (anonymous) on December 14, 2009 at 7:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)

vincent4ever
If I understand you correctly,
1. Only the people who live next to the quarry are against it, most everyone else in Vincent supports it,.
2. The City of Harpersville wants the quarry in Harpersville.
3. The no quarry group in Vincent wants the quarry in Harpersville?
Interesting observations.

Posted by vincent4ever (anonymous) on December 15, 2009 at 12:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)

ed_b_1,

You do not understand correctly.

The people that live in Vincent are the closest to the quarry, not people that live in Harpersville. Why would a group in Vincent claiming to be against a quarry want to annex the Town of Vincent into Harpersville? This act would increase the number of people with opinions about the quarry. The farther away you get from Vincent, the more people you will find in favor of a quarry?

This group of people also want to tell you that because of an ordinance that was passed by Harpersville, it would prevent a quarry from locating in Harpersville. The fact is that this ordinance is going to expire in a matter of a few months which would allow enough time for a quarry to set up shop before they start operation.

I am saying there are larger forces at work here. People, open your eyes.

Posted by thor (anonymous) on December 15, 2009 at 7:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)

vincent4ever, Who are these group of people you refer too? Who are the larger forces at work? Myself and anyone else interested would like to know. What about the fact of the ordinance? Can you produce you are not part of WR public relations.

Posted by vincent4ever (anonymous) on December 16, 2009 at 6:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Thor,

I have no association with White Rock. I am sure they would think of me as an enemy. If your focus is on fighting a quarry then act like it. Quit blindly following.

I have studied the actions of both groups for and against a quarry. I do not listen to what they say, I watch their actions. If you were to do this, it would be clear to you.

Go down to Harpersville Town Hall and ask for a copy of this ordinance and read it. If you need help, contact an attorney to explain it. You will see that this is about appearances.

As I have indicated before, all you have to do is follow the money. Who will benefit from annexing the Town of Vincent into Harpersville? Then ask yourself why? I can assure you that it is not to protect people from a quarry.

Posted by ed_b_1 (anonymous) on December 16, 2009 at 6:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I wonder then, why are those near the quarry site are against it, and those futher away are for it? It is commond for people that live near a quarry site to oppose it, but I don't understand, why in this case, the people that live futher away would support the quarry. Are they all not from Vincent?
I looked at a map, and it appears that more people in Harpersville will be affected by the quarry than people in Vincent. So why does Harpersville want the quarry?
Please shed some light about this ordinance. I assume that by "larger forces" you mean the no quarry group is all about getting the quarry into Harpersville? Thank you for explaining all this.

Posted by vincent4ever (anonymous) on December 16, 2009 at 11:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

ed_b_1

You are correct. There are a lot of people that want the quarry that do not live in Vincent.

It comes down to the ratio of $$$$ to inconvenience. The farther away from a quarry you are, the more the $$$$ outweighs the inconvenience.

By larger forces I mean that there are opportunists that have redirected the quarry opposition to increase their personal gain. Unfortunately, people are following because they are angry and being led by their emotions alone. This is increasing the ratio of money to inconvenience if they are successful with their effort annex the Town of Vincent into Harpersville.

The ordinance speaks for itself. All you have to do is to read it.

Posted by thor (anonymous) on December 17, 2009 at 6 p.m. (Suggest removal)

vincent4ever. You are stating that the citizens of Vincent not only have Vincent Hills for the quarry, but Vincent citizens are also being blindsided by no quarry who is really for the quarry? Your statement doesn't make any sense. This sounds like a ploy to get people upset about $$$$. The only real money that will be made in Vincent will be by WR. I am saying billions of dollars in the next 100 yrs. The buck stops with the mayor, city council, zoning board of Vincent. Will they stop it?

Posted by ed_b_1 (anonymous) on December 17, 2009 at 6:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)

vincent4ever
Another question, what are the $$$$?

Posted by vincent4ever (anonymous) on December 17, 2009 at 6:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)

thor,

Who is the "no quarry" that you refer to? Is it one person? I would guess not.

To your statements I only ask, "Who makes the money in war?". I say it is the arms traders. The only real money that will be made in Harpersville will be WR?

Posted by thor (anonymous) on December 17, 2009 at 7:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

vincent4ever. How about noquarry headquarters located in Vincent? Who are the arms traders? Are the arms traders located in Harpersville? WR money will be made where the best limestone is located. That is Vincent. Quit playing war games, unless you can tell who the enemy is. Vincent, Harpersville, or WR quarry.

Posted by ed_b_1 (anonymous) on December 18, 2009 at 10:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Seems like vincent4ever, thor, & I agree that White Rock is the only one that will make money from this deal. What I can't understand is why the people outside the river loop are supporting the quarry. Other than Autumn Dr, why would anyone support the quarry? Or has WR succeeded in pitting one side of town against the other (river loop?)

Posted by thor (anonymous) on December 19, 2009 at 9:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Who knows until January 26? Vincent officials will show their true colors, green for money that has already been spent for property in Vincent. WR wins, Who is supporting the quarry outside the river loop ?

Posted by ed_b_1 (anonymous) on December 21, 2009 at 6:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

All I want for Christmas is "NO QUARRY!"

Merry Christmas to ALL, and to ALL No Quarry.

Posted by thor (anonymous) on December 21, 2009 at 6:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Does Alabama Power support the quarry? Who is Stephen Bradley? His name seems to be mention with Alabama Power Co. A corporate lawyer for Alabama Power? Why would Bradley work for WR. Who in the Vincent area wants limestone. Is it Alabama Power? Alot of money will be involved. Pollution is a big concern for Alabama Power Co. What does limestone have to do with pollution? Look it up.

Posted by noquarry462 (anonymous) on December 28, 2009 at 7:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Recently v4e made several statements that I question. He stated that there "are a lot of people that want the quarry that do not live in Vincent." If they don't live or own property in Vincent, why would they even care about the quarry unless they work for WR? After speaking with a number of the people in Columbiana, I'm not sure there is even one of them that really give a d- - -.
v4e relates $$$$ to inconvenience as a factor that determines whether a person is for or against the quarry. Other than the massive profits by WR, there are so few that reep a sizeable $$$$, and as confirmed by v4e, the inconvenience to so many is so great, WHY would anyone other than WR want the quarry? (Think about this ?.)
The deline in property value alone cost Vincent, Harpersville, and Shelby County more in lost revenue than WR will ever pay. The increase in health cost will cost the citizens more than all the $$$$ return to the community. And the loss of farming revenue, alone, will be many times more than any $$$ return to the community.
So WHY would anyone other than WR support this quarry? (Thought about this ??)